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Post by tooth on Apr 2, 2024 12:46:58 GMT
i like you but you would maybe keep edwards but let coates go because he is injury prone whats Edwards then he doesn't play that many games A fair point and something I did consider yes. I know Edwards was out for several games when he took that bad blow to the head earlier in the season, since then I've no idea if he was injured or just not selected. For me he's a solid 7 out of 10 player, does the basics well and reliable when selected. That's another thing I'm not a fan of, the lack of information regarding players, their injuries and potential timeframe to when they might be available again. agreed about Edwards i like him too when fit
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Apr 2, 2024 15:17:34 GMT
A fair point and something I did consider yes. I know Edwards was out for several games when he took that bad blow to the head earlier in the season, since then I've no idea if he was injured or just not selected. For me he's a solid 7 out of 10 player, does the basics well and reliable when selected. That's another thing I'm not a fan of, the lack of information regarding players, their injuries and potential timeframe to when they might be available again. agreed about Edwards i like him too when fit There is a blue moon coming up so we may see him v Darlo.
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Post by noddy on Apr 2, 2024 15:26:50 GMT
agreed about Edwards i like him too when fit There is a blue moon coming up so we may see him v Darlo. Do you know if he's been injured or just out of favour Mark 🤔
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Post by MPW on Apr 2, 2024 19:36:19 GMT
I think Cal mentioned a few weeks ago that Edwards had been suffering with an illness rather than an injury. No idea what it was, so all a bit of a mystery.
I know Cal doesn’t like to talk about players injuries, but I think fans should know what the situation is.
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Apr 2, 2024 20:51:32 GMT
There is a blue moon coming up so we may see him v Darlo. Do you know if he's been injured or just out of favour Mark 🤔 Not got a clue
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Post by Al on Apr 2, 2024 21:25:19 GMT
Do you know if he's been injured or just out of favour Mark 🤔 Not got a clue To be frank here, when someone who has been or is as close to some of the inner workings of the club as you have been or maybe still are, comes out with a commwnt about a current player, it is going to raise eyebrows, and you know it will. If Edwards' absence from the squad is more than just 'illness' then I suggest you put up what is going on, otherwise keep your mouth shut
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Post by borussiachester on Apr 2, 2024 23:48:05 GMT
I don’t usually like doing these until after the end of the season - especially as a lot of my thinking here will be based on how well the players suit the current system, despite how clear it is that said system needs changing - but I may as well have a crack seeing as everyone else is doing so. Obviously, I’m also operating under the assumption that we’ll still be in the same league next season, though there’s absolutely still a chance we might not be!
Stanway - Obviously try everything we can to keep him, but realistically he’ll be off. The Football League beckons. Woodthorpe - Not sure whether he’s capable of being undisputed first-choice, but think he’s done enough to at least earn a new deal. Left-back still has to be one of our priorities in the transfer market, though. Taylor - Has to go I’m afraid. Still love the guy from his first spell, and might be willing to give him another chance were he not among the higher earners here, but I doubt that’s the case. Williams - Could actually see him staying, but I’d honestly feel sorry for him if he were still playing in the NLN next season as he’s obviously too good for this level. Again, deserves to be in the EFL. Glendon - I know he divides opinion, but he has to stay for me (though ideally we should see if he’d be willing to take a modest pay cut). He’s not the reason we’ve underwhelmed recently. Whitehouse - Been a bit disappointed with some of his performances this season, compared to how good he was when he first arrived, but think he’s just about done enough to earn a new deal; again, ideally on terms more favourable to us. Thomas - You know I love the guy, but his injury record and Cal’s failure to get the best out of him mean it wouldn’t surprise me if he left. Hopefully that’s not the case, and he not only stays but is given a more influential role. Norton - Has to go. Pleased that he’s improved enough to at least be seen as a decent option off the bench, but just hasn’t been prolific enough to warrant another contract. Daly - Surprised he hasn’t had more minutes as he seems a very good prospect. Would like to see him stay and develop further, but I’d trust Cal’s judgement if he decided he’s not good enough. Murray - Would keep as a useful squad player. Can’t say I’ve ever been his biggest fan, but he’s one of the few players to have actually improved this season, and can’t imagine he’s on big money. Hall - With all due respect, surely the move to Scarborough would suggest there’s no future for him here. Again, never been a massive fan, and despite some decent performances earlier this season, I think the decision to give him a new contract last summer seems like a bit of a mistake in hindsight. Heywood - Probably has to go, unfortunately. Comes across as such a likeable guy but don’t think he’ll ever be a starter for us, and it wouldn’t be fair on him to keep him just as emergency backup. Coates - Missed almost as many games as he’s played, and at times I’ve wondered whether his absences have solely been down to injury or whether there’s been something more at play, but he’s surely too talented a player to release. Generally been very good when he’s played, and he’s been the only full-back to actually flourish under Cal. We do still need to look for a proper backup, though. Roberts - Very much in the Simon Grand zone at this point, and if he stays, it should be on a contract weighted more towards his physio work but with the option to continue playing as a backup. I know he’s a strong voice in the dressing room and all, but I think that’s more of an indictment of the lack of leadership in the squad than anything else. J. Burton - Yes, he’s technically still a Chester player. Safe to say he won’t be for much longer. Edwards - As others have also speculated, don’t know whether there’s been some kind of bust-up with Cal, as he seems to be about fourth choice these days even when fit. I like him and if it were down to me I’d probably keep him, especially if Williams and/or Burke were to leave, but I can’t really see him staying.
I’m on the fence about both loanees. We know Tollitt is a class act on his day, but he’s also been one of the chief disappearers during this poor run - I’d happily have him back if his wage demands were reasonable, but the mistakes of last summer have surely taught us not to splurge too much money on players who we aren’t absolutely sure will be a success. Kieran Burton is still under contract at Hartlepool for next season, and they might even want to use him in their first team - if not, it’d make a fair amount of sense to bring him back here on loan, potentially as a Williams or Burke replacement, though we might prefer to sign someone permanently instead.
I also think it’d be interesting to discuss what we’d do about the four contracted players if they too were out of contract in the summer. We’re in a very good position with Burke, whereby we’ll either get another season out of him or will be able to command a good fee for him, and we’d surely still want Weeks to stay for another year despite his struggles this season. When it comes to Caton and Peers, though, I’m almost relieved that things have been taken out of our hands, because I think they’d be the two most difficult players over whom to make a decision - though I think the whole situation with them would go some way towards suggesting we ought to revert to the policy of one-year contracts for all but the most prized assets. We need to focus our efforts next season on getting the best out of them and ensuring they stay injury-free, because another disappointing campaign from one or both could have pretty major consequences both financially and in terms of our league position.
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Post by Lobster on Apr 3, 2024 3:24:45 GMT
I don’t usually like doing these until after the end of the season - especially as a lot of my thinking here will be based on how well the players suit the current system, despite how clear it is that said system needs changing - but I may as well have a crack seeing as everyone else is doing so. Obviously, I’m also operating under the assumption that we’ll still be in the same league next season, though there’s absolutely still a chance we might not be! Stanway - Obviously try everything we can to keep him, but realistically he’ll be off. The Football League beckons. Woodthorpe - Not sure whether he’s capable of being undisputed first-choice, but think he’s done enough to at least earn a new deal. Left-back still has to be one of our priorities in the transfer market, though. Taylor - Has to go I’m afraid. Still love the guy from his first spell, and might be willing to give him another chance were he not among the higher earners here, but I doubt that’s the case. Williams - Could actually see him staying, but I’d honestly feel sorry for him if he were still playing in the NLN next season as he’s obviously too good for this level. Again, deserves to be in the EFL. Glendon - I know he divides opinion, but he has to stay for me (though ideally we should see if he’d be willing to take a modest pay cut). He’s not the reason we’ve underwhelmed recently. Whitehouse - Been a bit disappointed with some of his performances this season, compared to how good he was when he first arrived, but think he’s just about done enough to earn a new deal; again, ideally on terms more favourable to us. Thomas - You know I love the guy, but his injury record and Cal’s failure to get the best out of him mean it wouldn’t surprise me if he left. Hopefully that’s not the case, and he not only stays but is given a more influential role. Norton - Has to go. Pleased that he’s improved enough to at least be seen as a decent option off the bench, but just hasn’t been prolific enough to warrant another contract. Daly - Surprised he hasn’t had more minutes as he seems a very good prospect. Would like to see him stay and develop further, but I’d trust Cal’s judgement if he decided he’s not good enough. Murray - Would keep as a useful squad player. Can’t say I’ve ever been his biggest fan, but he’s one of the few players to have actually improved this season, and can’t imagine he’s on big money. Hall - With all due respect, surely the move to Scarborough would suggest there’s no future for him here. Again, never been a massive fan, and despite some decent performances earlier this season, I think the decision to give him a new contract last summer seems like a bit of a mistake in hindsight. Heywood - Probably has to go, unfortunately. Comes across as such a likeable guy but don’t think he’ll ever be a starter for us, and it wouldn’t be fair on him to keep him just as emergency backup. Coates - Missed almost as many games as he’s played, and at times I’ve wondered whether his absences have solely been down to injury or whether there’s been something more at play, but he’s surely too talented a player to release. Generally been very good when he’s played, and he’s been the only full-back to actually flourish under Cal. We do still need to look for a proper backup, though. Roberts - Very much in the Simon Grand zone at this point, and if he stays, it should be on a contract weighted more towards his physio work but with the option to continue playing as a backup. I know he’s a strong voice in the dressing room and all, but I think that’s more of an indictment of the lack of leadership in the squad than anything else. J. Burton - Yes, he’s technically still a Chester player. Safe to say he won’t be for much longer. Edwards - As others have also speculated, don’t know whether there’s been some kind of bust-up with Cal, as he seems to be about fourth choice these days even when fit. I like him and if it were down to me I’d probably keep him, especially if Williams and/or Burke were to leave, but I can’t really see him staying. I’m on the fence about both loanees. We know Tollitt is a class act on his day, but he’s also been one of the chief disappearers during this poor run - I’d happily have him back if his wage demands were reasonable, but the mistakes of last summer have surely taught us not to splurge too much money on players who we aren’t absolutely sure will be a success. Kieran Burton is still under contract at Hartlepool for next season, and they might even want to use him in their first team - if not, it’d make a fair amount of sense to bring him back here on loan, potentially as a Williams or Burke replacement, though we might prefer to sign someone permanently instead. I also think it’d be interesting to discuss what we’d do about the four contracted players if they too were out of contract in the summer. We’re in a very good position with Burke, whereby we’ll either get another season out of him or will be able to command a good fee for him, and we’d surely still want Weeks to stay for another year despite his struggles this season. When it comes to Caton and Peers, though, I’m almost relieved that things have been taken out of our hands, because I think they’d be the two most difficult players over whom to make a decision - though I think the whole situation with them would go some way towards suggesting we ought to revert to the policy of one-year contracts for all but the most prized assets. We need to focus our efforts next season on getting the best out of them and ensuring they stay injury-free, because another disappointing campaign from one or both could have pretty major consequences both financially and in terms of our league position. Good to read, but I think you're being a bit too charitable and it seems like you only really want the fringe and on-loan players out. I don't think you can say we "surely" want Weeks to stay. He's actually been poor for two of the last three seasons now.
I think we'll need to be a bit braver than this in the summer, myself. For a start, I think that midfield block of Glendon, Weeks and Whitehouse needs breaking up and at least one of them needs to go.
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Post by Neil Hunt Nonsense Potter on Apr 3, 2024 5:47:31 GMT
To be frank here, when someone who has been or is as close to some of the inner workings of the club as you have been or maybe still are, comes out with a commwnt about a current player, it is going to raise eyebrows, and you know it will. If Edwards' absence from the squad is more than just 'illness' then I suggest you put up what is going on, otherwise keep your mouth shut What are you going on about telling me to keep my mouth shut? I know as much as anyone does about Liam Edwards, nothing. I just stated the obvious that we see him once in a blue moon. For the record I haven't worked for the club in nearly ten years.
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Post by Moltisanti on Apr 3, 2024 5:52:26 GMT
To be frank here, when someone who has been or is as close to some of the inner workings of the club as you have been or maybe still are, comes out with a commwnt about a current player, it is going to raise eyebrows, and you know it will. If Edwards' absence from the squad is more than just 'illness' then I suggest you put up what is going on, otherwise keep your mouth shut What are you going on about telling me to keep my mouth shut? I know as much as anyone does about Liam Edwards, nothing. I just stated the obvious that we see him once in a blue moon. For the record I haven't worked for the club in nearly ten years. Just tried to pull me for being personal and pointing fingers in another thread too. 😂
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Post by Harry Lime on Apr 3, 2024 6:48:32 GMT
To be frank here, when someone who has been or is as close to some of the inner workings of the club as you have been or maybe still are, comes out with a commwnt about a current player, it is going to raise eyebrows, and you know it will. If Edwards' absence from the squad is more than just 'illness' then I suggest you put up what is going on, otherwise keep your mouth shut There was a comment that he'd played at Warrington while he wasn't well. He went off midway through the 2nd half. A couple of weeks later it was said that he'd played with flu because we were short of players. Cal said he had been unwell, and it was an ongoing situation that he was having to deal with. Or something like that. He then reappeared for a couple of games as sub and started. Since then disappeared again. Hopefully he's OK and able to play if we need him. Granted it all seems a bit strange considering the Warrington game was 3 months ago. If he has a condition that means he is unable to play or train properly for that long, it may be helpful for both the player and the fans for the club to issue a statement.
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Post by Harry Lime on Apr 3, 2024 7:11:11 GMT
I don’t usually like doing these until after the end of the season - especially as a lot of my thinking here will be based on how well the players suit the current system, despite how clear it is that said system needs changing - but I may as well have a crack seeing as everyone else is doing so. Obviously, I’m also operating under the assumption that we’ll still be in the same league next season, though there’s absolutely still a chance we might not be! Stanway - Obviously try everything we can to keep him, but realistically he’ll be off. The Football League beckons. Woodthorpe - Not sure whether he’s capable of being undisputed first-choice, but think he’s done enough to at least earn a new deal. Left-back still has to be one of our priorities in the transfer market, though. Taylor - Has to go I’m afraid. Still love the guy from his first spell, and might be willing to give him another chance were he not among the higher earners here, but I doubt that’s the case. Williams - Could actually see him staying, but I’d honestly feel sorry for him if he were still playing in the NLN next season as he’s obviously too good for this level. Again, deserves to be in the EFL. Glendon - I know he divides opinion, but he has to stay for me (though ideally we should see if he’d be willing to take a modest pay cut). He’s not the reason we’ve underwhelmed recently. Whitehouse - Been a bit disappointed with some of his performances this season, compared to how good he was when he first arrived, but think he’s just about done enough to earn a new deal; again, ideally on terms more favourable to us. Thomas - You know I love the guy, but his injury record and Cal’s failure to get the best out of him mean it wouldn’t surprise me if he left. Hopefully that’s not the case, and he not only stays but is given a more influential role. Norton - Has to go. Pleased that he’s improved enough to at least be seen as a decent option off the bench, but just hasn’t been prolific enough to warrant another contract. Daly - Surprised he hasn’t had more minutes as he seems a very good prospect. Would like to see him stay and develop further, but I’d trust Cal’s judgement if he decided he’s not good enough. Murray - Would keep as a useful squad player. Can’t say I’ve ever been his biggest fan, but he’s one of the few players to have actually improved this season, and can’t imagine he’s on big money. Hall - With all due respect, surely the move to Scarborough would suggest there’s no future for him here. Again, never been a massive fan, and despite some decent performances earlier this season, I think the decision to give him a new contract last summer seems like a bit of a mistake in hindsight. Heywood - Probably has to go, unfortunately. Comes across as such a likeable guy but don’t think he’ll ever be a starter for us, and it wouldn’t be fair on him to keep him just as emergency backup. Coates - Missed almost as many games as he’s played, and at times I’ve wondered whether his absences have solely been down to injury or whether there’s been something more at play, but he’s surely too talented a player to release. Generally been very good when he’s played, and he’s been the only full-back to actually flourish under Cal. We do still need to look for a proper backup, though. Roberts - Very much in the Simon Grand zone at this point, and if he stays, it should be on a contract weighted more towards his physio work but with the option to continue playing as a backup. I know he’s a strong voice in the dressing room and all, but I think that’s more of an indictment of the lack of leadership in the squad than anything else. J. Burton - Yes, he’s technically still a Chester player. Safe to say he won’t be for much longer. Edwards - As others have also speculated, don’t know whether there’s been some kind of bust-up with Cal, as he seems to be about fourth choice these days even when fit. I like him and if it were down to me I’d probably keep him, especially if Williams and/or Burke were to leave, but I can’t really see him staying. I’m on the fence about both loanees. We know Tollitt is a class act on his day, but he’s also been one of the chief disappearers during this poor run - I’d happily have him back if his wage demands were reasonable, but the mistakes of last summer have surely taught us not to splurge too much money on players who we aren’t absolutely sure will be a success. Kieran Burton is still under contract at Hartlepool for next season, and they might even want to use him in their first team - if not, it’d make a fair amount of sense to bring him back here on loan, potentially as a Williams or Burke replacement, though we might prefer to sign someone permanently instead. I also think it’d be interesting to discuss what we’d do about the four contracted players if they too were out of contract in the summer. We’re in a very good position with Burke, whereby we’ll either get another season out of him or will be able to command a good fee for him, and we’d surely still want Weeks to stay for another year despite his struggles this season. When it comes to Caton and Peers, though, I’m almost relieved that things have been taken out of our hands, because I think they’d be the two most difficult players over whom to make a decision - though I think the whole situation with them would go some way towards suggesting we ought to revert to the policy of one-year contracts for all but the most prized assets. We need to focus our efforts next season on getting the best out of them and ensuring they stay injury-free, because another disappointing campaign from one or both could have pretty major consequences both financially and in terms of our league position. Don't disagree with your general opinions on players. I'm in the Lobster camp here in that we need more of clear out than just the odd first choice starter. The midfield balance hasn't been right. Weeks is under contract, the others aren't. Glendon and Whitehouse are both decent players, as is Murray, but not in the 4 with Weeks there too. Depending on their wage, Glendon goes first, as Whitehouse can cover more central and defensive midfield positions. That assumes we'll play more standard midfield set up. Regarding Caton and Peers, just because they're under contract doesn't mean they have to start. Releasing Taylor and Glendon releases money for strikers. It should be easier to bring in functional hardworking midfield players on a budget than good strikers. Same with fullbacks.
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Post by Imperial on Apr 3, 2024 8:26:35 GMT
To be frank here, when someone who has been or is as close to some of the inner workings of the club as you have been or maybe still are, comes out with a commwnt about a current player, it is going to raise eyebrows, and you know it will. If Edwards' absence from the squad is more than just 'illness' then I suggest you put up what is going on, otherwise keep your mouth shut There was a comment that he'd played at Warrington while he wasn't well. He went off midway through the 2nd half. A couple of weeks later it was said that he'd played with flu because we were short of players. Cal said he had been unwell, and it was an ongoing situation that he was having to deal with. Or something like that. He then reappeared for a couple of games as sub and started. Since then disappeared again. Hopefully he's OK and able to play if we need him. Granted it all seems a bit strange considering the Warrington game was 3 months ago. If he has a condition that means he is unable to play or train properly for that long, it may be helpful for both the player and the fans for the club to issue a statement. It did occur to me that it could be a mental health issue rather than physical as it was being described as illness rather than injury but that’s pure speculation on my part.
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Post by Imperial on Apr 3, 2024 8:30:31 GMT
I don’t usually like doing these until after the end of the season - especially as a lot of my thinking here will be based on how well the players suit the current system, despite how clear it is that said system needs changing - but I may as well have a crack seeing as everyone else is doing so. Obviously, I’m also operating under the assumption that we’ll still be in the same league next season, though there’s absolutely still a chance we might not be! Stanway - Obviously try everything we can to keep him, but realistically he’ll be off. The Football League beckons. Woodthorpe - Not sure whether he’s capable of being undisputed first-choice, but think he’s done enough to at least earn a new deal. Left-back still has to be one of our priorities in the transfer market, though. Taylor - Has to go I’m afraid. Still love the guy from his first spell, and might be willing to give him another chance were he not among the higher earners here, but I doubt that’s the case. Williams - Could actually see him staying, but I’d honestly feel sorry for him if he were still playing in the NLN next season as he’s obviously too good for this level. Again, deserves to be in the EFL. Glendon - I know he divides opinion, but he has to stay for me (though ideally we should see if he’d be willing to take a modest pay cut). He’s not the reason we’ve underwhelmed recently. Whitehouse - Been a bit disappointed with some of his performances this season, compared to how good he was when he first arrived, but think he’s just about done enough to earn a new deal; again, ideally on terms more favourable to us. Thomas - You know I love the guy, but his injury record and Cal’s failure to get the best out of him mean it wouldn’t surprise me if he left. Hopefully that’s not the case, and he not only stays but is given a more influential role. Norton - Has to go. Pleased that he’s improved enough to at least be seen as a decent option off the bench, but just hasn’t been prolific enough to warrant another contract. Daly - Surprised he hasn’t had more minutes as he seems a very good prospect. Would like to see him stay and develop further, but I’d trust Cal’s judgement if he decided he’s not good enough. Murray - Would keep as a useful squad player. Can’t say I’ve ever been his biggest fan, but he’s one of the few players to have actually improved this season, and can’t imagine he’s on big money. Hall - With all due respect, surely the move to Scarborough would suggest there’s no future for him here. Again, never been a massive fan, and despite some decent performances earlier this season, I think the decision to give him a new contract last summer seems like a bit of a mistake in hindsight. Heywood - Probably has to go, unfortunately. Comes across as such a likeable guy but don’t think he’ll ever be a starter for us, and it wouldn’t be fair on him to keep him just as emergency backup. Coates - Missed almost as many games as he’s played, and at times I’ve wondered whether his absences have solely been down to injury or whether there’s been something more at play, but he’s surely too talented a player to release. Generally been very good when he’s played, and he’s been the only full-back to actually flourish under Cal. We do still need to look for a proper backup, though. Roberts - Very much in the Simon Grand zone at this point, and if he stays, it should be on a contract weighted more towards his physio work but with the option to continue playing as a backup. I know he’s a strong voice in the dressing room and all, but I think that’s more of an indictment of the lack of leadership in the squad than anything else. J. Burton - Yes, he’s technically still a Chester player. Safe to say he won’t be for much longer. Edwards - As others have also speculated, don’t know whether there’s been some kind of bust-up with Cal, as he seems to be about fourth choice these days even when fit. I like him and if it were down to me I’d probably keep him, especially if Williams and/or Burke were to leave, but I can’t really see him staying. I’m on the fence about both loanees. We know Tollitt is a class act on his day, but he’s also been one of the chief disappearers during this poor run - I’d happily have him back if his wage demands were reasonable, but the mistakes of last summer have surely taught us not to splurge too much money on players who we aren’t absolutely sure will be a success. Kieran Burton is still under contract at Hartlepool for next season, and they might even want to use him in their first team - if not, it’d make a fair amount of sense to bring him back here on loan, potentially as a Williams or Burke replacement, though we might prefer to sign someone permanently instead. I also think it’d be interesting to discuss what we’d do about the four contracted players if they too were out of contract in the summer. We’re in a very good position with Burke, whereby we’ll either get another season out of him or will be able to command a good fee for him, and we’d surely still want Weeks to stay for another year despite his struggles this season. When it comes to Caton and Peers, though, I’m almost relieved that things have been taken out of our hands, because I think they’d be the two most difficult players over whom to make a decision - though I think the whole situation with them would go some way towards suggesting we ought to revert to the policy of one-year contracts for all but the most prized assets. We need to focus our efforts next season on getting the best out of them and ensuring they stay injury-free, because another disappointing campaign from one or both could have pretty major consequences both financially and in terms of our league position. Don't disagree with your general opinions on players. I'm in the Lobster camp here in that we need more of clear out than just the odd first choice starter. The midfield balance hasn't been right. Weeks is under contract, the others aren't. Glendon and Whitehouse are both decent players, as is Murray, but not in the 4 with Weeks there too. Depending on their wage, Glendon goes first, as Whitehouse can cover more central and defensive midfield positions. That assumes we'll play more standard midfield set up. Regarding Caton and Peers, just because they're under contract doesn't mean they have to start. Releasing Taylor and Glendon releases money for strikers. It should be easier to bring in functional hardworking midfield players on a budget than good strikers. Same with fullbacks. The only issue with the “clear out” approach is that you have to be able to replace them with better players, it’s no good clearing out what you’ve got if the only available & affordable replacements aren’t as good as the players that have left. I think Cal knows that some of his recruitment wasn’t as good as it could have been but I do think that some of that is down to the players, Goodson, Taylor for example. I’m sure that he’ll have an idea of how to improve the side & the retained list will reflect that.
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Post by Harry Lime on Apr 3, 2024 9:37:01 GMT
Don't disagree with your general opinions on players. I'm in the Lobster camp here in that we need more of clear out than just the odd first choice starter. The midfield balance hasn't been right. Weeks is under contract, the others aren't. Glendon and Whitehouse are both decent players, as is Murray, but not in the 4 with Weeks there too. Depending on their wage, Glendon goes first, as Whitehouse can cover more central and defensive midfield positions. That assumes we'll play more standard midfield set up. Regarding Caton and Peers, just because they're under contract doesn't mean they have to start. Releasing Taylor and Glendon releases money for strikers. It should be easier to bring in functional hardworking midfield players on a budget than good strikers. Same with fullbacks. The only issue with the “clear out” approach is that you have to be able to replace them with better players, it’s no good clearing out what you’ve got if the only available & affordable replacements aren’t as good as the players that have left. I think Cal knows that some of his recruitment wasn’t as good as it could have been but I do think that some of that is down to the players, Goodson, Taylor for example. I’m sure that he’ll have an idea of how to improve the side & the retained list will reflect that. I see your point as a key 3 or 4 signings would transform this team. Problem is, you'd need to clear out some of your better players to pay for those new key signings. On balance I think it needs to be done though. Also something doesn't look right in the group at the moment. A change may improve things. Pretty sure Cal will make better signings this summer, than last.
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Post by 1paulcarden on Apr 3, 2024 14:26:10 GMT
The only issue with the “clear out” approach is that you have to be able to replace them with better players, it’s no good clearing out what you’ve got if the only available & affordable replacements aren’t as good as the players that have left. I think Cal knows that some of his recruitment wasn’t as good as it could have been but I do think that some of that is down to the players, Goodson, Taylor for example. I’m sure that he’ll have an idea of how to improve the side & the retained list will reflect that. I see your point as a key 3 or 4 signings would transform this team. Problem is, you'd need to clear out some of your better players to pay for those new key signings. On balance I think it needs to be done though. Also something doesn't look right in the group at the moment. A change may improve things. Pretty sure Cal will make better signings this summer, than last. Exactly. Needs to be wholesale changes sadly unless we want a repeat of the past 4 months. Weeks is under contract so the other two go for me. Murray I’d potentially retain if the finances were right. We need to sign some height and width and you will not get that keeping the higher earners in this team who haven’t been good enough this season. Also those that are injury prone can go too. We’ve had too many players who’ve been out for months and months throughout this season.
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Post by kyle on Apr 3, 2024 15:03:25 GMT
Interesting on the subject of injured players, is there any more to it? Could we do something different around training, fitness or recovery? Or is it as simple as we have a lot of injury prone players?
We have seemed to have a lot of non-contact injuries
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Post by Churton Blue on Apr 3, 2024 15:24:08 GMT
Interesting on the subject of injured players, is there any more to it? Could we do something different around training, fitness or recovery? Or is it as simple as we have a lot of injury prone players? We have seemed to have a lot of non-contact injuries Injuries are just a matter of luck 95% of the time. In the Premiership this week Luton could be without 13 players against Arsenal. Sheffield United are without 10 against Liverpool. Both Liverpool and Newcastle have had injury lists over 10 this season. If there was as a way of injuries being prevented would the above be the case ? We are talking about clubs with the most up to date facilities and numerous highly trained staff who pay players millions in the case of Liverpool and Newcastle.
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Post by noddy on Apr 3, 2024 15:38:20 GMT
Interesting on the subject of injured players, is there any more to it? Could we do something different around training, fitness or recovery? Or is it as simple as we have a lot of injury prone players? We have seemed to have a lot of non-contact injuries Injuries are just a matter of luck 95% of the time. In the Premiership this week Luton could be without 13 players against Arsenal. Sheffield United are without 10 against Liverpool. Both Liverpool and Newcastle have had injury lists over 10 this season. If there was as a way of injuries being prevented would the above be the case ? We are talking about clubs with the most up to date facilities and numerous highly trained staff who pay players millions in the case of Liverpool and Newcastle. I guess we are just very unlucky then, because over the last 3 seasons we seem to have had an endless supply of them. Obviously speculation if it's the training, the artificial surface or whatever and there's nothing you can do about the freak ones like Glendon, Thomas or Peers. It's more the muscle based ones that keep players out for a month, or are reacurring that seem to be a major issue.
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Post by dc2cfc on Apr 3, 2024 15:43:15 GMT
In terms of the training ground at the King George in Blacon, does anyone know what has happened with the training pitches on the grass? Ideally if we continue in the day it would be better to move onto the grass pitches instead of 4G.
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Post by Johnnybling on Apr 3, 2024 17:53:22 GMT
Can’t see Wyll staying, I have heard rumours of coming back home to Barrow, to replace Farman who is in his 30’s - also Dundee Utd have shown interest apparently. BIG mistake on not giving him a two year deal when I said we should have.
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Post by Moltisanti on Apr 3, 2024 18:24:46 GMT
Can’t see Wyll staying, I have heard rumours of coming back home to Barrow, to replace Farman who is in his 30’s - also Dundee Utd have shown interest apparently. BIG mistake on not giving him a two year deal when I said we should have. Evening Mr Stanway
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Post by bryndjones on Apr 3, 2024 18:29:00 GMT
Adam Thomas was signed while he was coming off a long term injury. Liam Edwards the same. I understand there’s luck involved but there are lessons here.
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Post by noddy on Apr 3, 2024 18:37:50 GMT
Adam Thomas was signed while he was coming off a long term injury. Liam Edwards the same. I understand there’s luck involved but there are lessons here. Agreed. We shouldn't be considering players who haven't featured in a certain percentage of games for their club the previous season. Whatever that percentage figure, I would say 40 to 50%.
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Post by eltonblues on Apr 3, 2024 18:42:17 GMT
Can’t see Wyll staying, I have heard rumours of coming back home to Barrow, to replace Farman who is in his 30’s - also Dundee Utd have shown interest apparently. BIG mistake on not giving him a two year deal when I said we should have. Said to my brother the other day that Carlisle or Barrow would be a decent next step for Wyll
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Post by noddy on Apr 3, 2024 18:43:18 GMT
Can’t see Wyll staying, I have heard rumours of coming back home to Barrow, to replace Farman who is in his 30’s - also Dundee Utd have shown interest apparently. BIG mistake on not giving him a two year deal when I said we should have. Said to my brother the other day that Carlisle or Barrow would be a decent next step for Wyll Agreed, and he's from that neck of the woods as well.
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Post by vandycandy on Apr 3, 2024 18:43:21 GMT
Can’t see Wyll staying, I have heard rumours of coming back home to Barrow, to replace Farman who is in his 30’s - also Dundee Utd have shown interest apparently. BIG mistake on not giving him a two year deal when I said we should have. Agreed, do very well to find a keeper of his quality if he does leave in the summer.
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Post by noddy on Apr 3, 2024 18:45:20 GMT
He will go, and quite rightly as well. Some of us know a player when we see one.
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Post by 1paulcarden on Apr 3, 2024 19:26:11 GMT
Can’t see Wyll staying, I have heard rumours of coming back home to Barrow, to replace Farman who is in his 30’s - also Dundee Utd have shown interest apparently. BIG mistake on not giving him a two year deal when I said we should have. Agreed, do very well to find a keeper of his quality if he does leave in the summer. Wasn’t he signed under Watson? Under a 1 year contract with an additional one year option? So he was signed (effectively) on a two year contract?
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Post by bluejay on Apr 3, 2024 19:49:40 GMT
He will go, and quite rightly as well. Some of us know a player when we see one. Obvious after his first game. Never understood why some people resented him, guessing they took a dislike to Johnnybling bigging him up on here. Does seem like it might be his dad but good luck to him...
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