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Post by iandychesterfc on Apr 17, 2024 18:15:35 GMT
The key question is how we went from 3rd to 12th.
Say what you like about budgets etc. We were bang in the playoffs and now we are not
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Post by Rimmer on Apr 17, 2024 18:29:13 GMT
The key question is how we went from 3rd to 12th. Say what you like about budgets etc. We were bang in the playoffs and now we are not That right there is the most important question at the moment in my opinion
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Post by chesterblue on Apr 17, 2024 22:21:23 GMT
This is obviously an immature comment , as a season ticket holder for many years this season has been a 6 out of 10 experience. A measure of success has been the number of young players coming through and holding their own. The disappointment for me was that we happy to achieve a playoff spot. We have decent players but unfortunately not enough to aim for the top spot. If we cannot reach that level then playoffs will be a lottery every year. Forever an optimist 🏴🙂⚽️🙃
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Post by agl on Apr 18, 2024 5:17:42 GMT
This is obviously an immature comment , as a season ticket holder for many years this season has been a 6 out of 10 experience. A measure of success has been the number of young players coming through and holding their own. The disappointment for me was that we happy to achieve a playoff spot. We have decent players but unfortunately not enough to aim for the top spot. If we cannot reach that level then playoffs will be a lottery every year. Forever an optimist 🏴🙂⚽️🙃 The play offs aren't a lottery if you're not in them at all. If you're referring to the quote above your own, then surely most fans are scratching their heads right now and wondering just how we managed to mess up the season from such a strong league position at Christmas. If you're referring to the thread title, then it's up for discussion...manager, tactics, recruitment, players, budget? Maybe a combination?
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Post by league2 on Apr 18, 2024 8:48:13 GMT
The key question is how we went from 3rd to 12th. Say what you like about budgets etc. We were bang in the playoffs and now we are not As I said in an earlier post its like Turkeys voting for Christmas it was never going to happen.
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Post by weareblues on Apr 18, 2024 9:55:06 GMT
Other than Scunthorpe this is argubally the weakest this leagues been since we've been back down Typical of us not to take advantage of it.
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Post by JUELIO on Apr 18, 2024 10:35:44 GMT
The key question is how we went from 3rd to 12th. Say what you like about budgets etc. We were bang in the playoffs and now we are not get behind the lads and stop moaning.
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Post by Al on Apr 18, 2024 11:19:03 GMT
The key question is how we went from 3rd to 12th. Say what you like about budgets etc. We were bang in the playoffs and now we are not get behind the lads and stop moaning. Constructive..
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Post by B Block Blue on Apr 18, 2024 11:34:24 GMT
The key question is how we went from 3rd to 12th. Say what you like about budgets etc. We were bang in the playoffs and now we are not get behind the lads and stop moaning. You made that comment your first post? Well done. It is a very valid question. To drop from 3rd to 12th is poor. Surely the idea is for continuous improvement year on year? This clearly hasn't happened and we have gone backwards 9 places from last season. Plenty of reasons I suppose but the main one for me is our terrible home form since the start of the year and our inability to break down organised, strong teams with no idea of a plan B.
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Post by iandychesterfc on Apr 18, 2024 12:19:27 GMT
The key question is how we went from 3rd to 12th. Say what you like about budgets etc. We were bang in the playoffs and now we are not get behind the lads and stop moaning. aww your first post. im honoured. Biggest budget in years yielding mid-table warrants discussion, sorry.
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Post by iandychesterfc on Apr 18, 2024 12:20:42 GMT
get behind the lads and stop moaning. You made that comment your first post? Well done. It is a very valid question. To drop from 3rd to 12th is poor. Surely the idea is for continuous improvement year on year? This clearly hasn't happened and we have gone backwards 9 places from last season. Plenty of reasons I suppose but the main one for me is our terrible home form since the start of the year and our inability to break down organised, strong teams with no idea of a plan B. Sensible observations.
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Post by inthestand on Apr 18, 2024 13:12:58 GMT
Can’t all be put down to Cal this , let’s face it he’s been asked to win promotion with players that no other teams want, we have no sell on’s this year either with no market value..how his he expected to win promotion under these constraints? …all in all..Cal and the boys have done ok..top half finish..
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Post by Curva Nord on Apr 18, 2024 13:17:46 GMT
How do you know these are players no one else wants?
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Post by Al on Apr 18, 2024 13:53:55 GMT
Can’t all be put down to Cal this , let’s face it he’s been asked to win promotion with players that no other teams want, we have no sell on’s this year either with no market value..how his he expected to win promotion under these constraints? …all in all..Cal and the boys have done ok..top half finish.. We were 3rd..
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Post by weareblues on Apr 18, 2024 14:10:45 GMT
Can’t all be put down to Cal this , let’s face it he’s been asked to win promotion with players that no other teams want, we have no sell on’s this year either with no market value..how his he expected to win promotion under these constraints? …all in all..Cal and the boys have done ok..top half finish.. Are you on a wind up?
He's the one who signed these players... It's his poor recruitment & Stubborness thats cost us this season, Fingers crossed he learns by this & recruits well in summer.
Personally would give him this summer and see how hes doing by October / November & If nothings changed get rid.
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Post by league2 on Apr 18, 2024 14:37:10 GMT
get behind the lads and stop moaning. aww your first post. im honoured. Biggest budget in years yielding mid-table warrants discussion, sorry. Biggest budget in years i don't think so We are nowhere near scunthorpe Brackley curzon ect wages wise
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Post by whopper1 on Apr 18, 2024 14:49:58 GMT
I'd get rid, big clear out needed in the summer, if you can't get a top seven finish in this crap league on gates of 2000 plus there's something wrong somewhere
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Post by yoshimitsu on Apr 18, 2024 14:55:26 GMT
Football, unfortunately, isn’t as simple as that though is it.
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Post by Al on Apr 18, 2024 15:10:56 GMT
aww your first post. im honoured. Biggest budget in years yielding mid-table warrants discussion, sorry. Biggest budget in years i don't think so We are nowhere near scunthorpe Brackley curzon ect wages wise Smaller budget than Curzon? Get out of it
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Post by billyw on Apr 18, 2024 15:25:33 GMT
Can’t all be put down to Cal this , let’s face it he’s been asked to win promotion with players that no other teams want, we have no sell on’s this year either with no market value..how his he expected to win promotion under these constraints? …all in all..Cal and the boys have done ok..top half finish.. Sorry can’t agree. We were going along just fine until Christmas so it can be argued that the players were good enough, we just needed a goal scorer. What happened after Christmas is the problem that needs discussion and resolving e.g. Is there a problem behind the scenes that caused the downturn and players not playing to their full potential.
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Post by Blockhead on Apr 18, 2024 15:33:05 GMT
Biggest budget in years i don't think so We are nowhere near scunthorpe Brackley curzon ect wages wise Smaller budget than Curzon? Get out of it Conveniently, Curzon Ashton are a Mutual/Co-Operative society like ourselves so they publish a profit&loss account on the register (privately owned football clubs at our level are not required to, but some do voluntarily) The last year for which there are sets of accounts for both clubs to compare is year ending 2022 Wages and Salaries (all staff): Chester £558k Curzon £366k Curzon very nicely split this out between normal salaries and player wages, we don't for competitive reasons. Their player wages were just £210k. A lot has been made of Curzon's revenue from pitch hire, but this merely compensates for their low gates. They earned £132k from the pitch (£162k if you include what they classify as Holiday Club, but not sure if this is the pitch or other facilities), but only had £63k gate receipts
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Post by Al on Apr 18, 2024 15:52:51 GMT
Smaller budget than Curzon? Get out of it Conveniently, Curzon Ashton are a Mutual/Co-Operative society like ourselves so they publish a profit&loss account on the register (privately owned football clubs at our level are not required to, but some do voluntarily) The last year for which there are sets of accounts for both clubs to compare is year ending 2022 Wages and Salaries (all staff): Chester £558k Curzon £366k Curzon very nicely split this out between normal salaries and player wages, we don't for competitive reasons. Their player wages were just £210k. A lot has been made of Curzon's revenue from pitch hire, but this merely compensates for their low gates. They earned £132k from the pitch (£162k if you include what they classify as Holiday Club, but not sure if this is the pitch or other facilities), but only had £63k gate receipts Outstanding work sir
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Post by Blockhead on Apr 18, 2024 15:54:40 GMT
Conveniently, Curzon Ashton are a Mutual/Co-Operative society like ourselves so they publish a profit&loss account on the register (privately owned football clubs at our level are not required to, but some do voluntarily) The last year for which there are sets of accounts for both clubs to compare is year ending 2022 Wages and Salaries (all staff): Chester £558k Curzon £366k Curzon very nicely split this out between normal salaries and player wages, we don't for competitive reasons. Their player wages were just £210k. A lot has been made of Curzon's revenue from pitch hire, but this merely compensates for their low gates. They earned £132k from the pitch (£162k if you include what they classify as Holiday Club, but not sure if this is the pitch or other facilities), but only had £63k gate receipts Outstanding work sir Slow last hour at work 😂
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Post by deesideblue1 on Apr 18, 2024 16:05:45 GMT
Why the fcuk is this forum now obsessed with Curzon?
Every day I see a post about their budget, their 4g, the chairman and Elton John playing events.
Can’t we just focus on us?
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Post by Al on Apr 18, 2024 16:51:31 GMT
Why the fcuk is this forum now obsessed with Curzon? Every day I see a post about their budget, their 4g, the chairman and Elton John playing events. Can’t we just focus on us? Some are trying to make out the like of Curzon have a bigger playing budget than us and that's why we didn't make the play offs. Good to see that pretty lame argument blown out of the water
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Post by inthestand on Apr 18, 2024 18:00:30 GMT
Just a reminder of this Curzon thing…we ain’t many points behind them,and they haven’t been promoted either…plus we took four points out of them too…you do need the money to get better recruitment, but you need luck and as little injuries as possible to go alongside it…my disappointment, a player I’ve always liked was Tollit..and was well happy with his signing by Cal,But came here and was very mediocre and didn’t really contribute at all…it’s just they way it goes sometimes..is that Carl’s fault ?
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Post by Moltisanti on Apr 18, 2024 18:06:31 GMT
Asaba
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Post by Rio Doherty on Apr 18, 2024 18:09:42 GMT
Dale.
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Post by Curva Nord on Apr 18, 2024 18:16:09 GMT
I have no idea if our players jobs interfere with results too. Listening to a podcast the then at the time Blyth Spartans manager said they had an away game at Boston United. He had two players self drive to the game getting to the ground for 7pm. He had had his main striker out scaffolding all day and one lad had got into work at 06:30 that day so he could leave early to make the fixture.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Apr 18, 2024 18:29:08 GMT
Heggs.
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