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Post by Moltisanti on Oct 7, 2021 10:31:32 GMT
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Post by cityboy5705 on Oct 7, 2021 10:38:07 GMT
Right need to get behind them now then as a club pull together
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Post by Malcolm Tucker on Oct 7, 2021 10:42:00 GMT
Good to see weâve given up on the season, like Jonno has.
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Post by milnerisgod on Oct 7, 2021 10:43:27 GMT
I'll take that.
I'll admit I'm still not 100% convinced by them, especially after Jonno's post match interview, but I'm happy to trust to the board's decision. Hopefully, there will have been some serious discussions on both sides about what is expected over the next couple of months and I look forward to being proved totally wrong in doubting them come May!
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Oct 7, 2021 10:44:44 GMT
That's a fair statement. Everyone has been disappointed with the way the season has gone and some performances have been completely unacceptable, but if mistakes have been made regarding recruitment and tactics, then they should be given a chance to rectify them. If players havent met certain standards then move them on. Regarding tactics, work out a system that makes us solid and hard to beat and suits the players at our disposal. If the squad is imbalenced then rectify it. Finally periodic reviews of the targets set are absolutely the right course. I for one support the levelheadedness of the board.
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Post by devacfc2010 on Oct 7, 2021 10:45:28 GMT
This is a sage decision, we can't be sacking managers after 7 league games into a season, we're not Watford.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Oct 7, 2021 10:48:55 GMT
Good to see weâve given up on the season, like Jonno has. I dont think the board or anyone else has given up on the season. Yes, mistakes have been made re: recruitment and tactics, but they should be given the chance to rectify those mistakes. Never done anything, that you wouldnt have done differently , in hindsight?
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Post by superman on Oct 7, 2021 10:51:48 GMT
Understandable approach from the board. Didnât expect any different to be honest, hope it works, but have my doubts. Anyway as cityboy says, letâs get behind them and give it the best chance. Think the next 3 games will really test the resolve of everybody.
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Post by Malcolm Tucker on Oct 7, 2021 10:55:35 GMT
Good to see weâve given up on the season, like Jonno has. I dont think the board or anyone else has given up on the season. Yes, mistakes have been made re: recruitment and tactics, but they should be given the chance to rectify those mistakes. Never done anything, that you wouldnt have done differently , in hindsight? The interview finished it for me. Happy to be proved wrong and for us to actually start matches positively, but if weâve got a manager who says he wouldnât bother going to watch this team, Iâm not going to rush to travel for 5 1/2 hours to until thereâs some improvement. Change needs to happen fast here, if the next few games are the same dross then I hope the board reconsiders.
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Post by Frank Owenâs Paintbrush on Oct 7, 2021 11:06:43 GMT
The right decision in my opinion. We arenât Watford, and Iâm glad we arenât!
Letâs get behind the management, players and board. Hopefully we can start putting some consistency together in the league, and thereâs always the FA Trophy to look forward to as well.
COYB, CTID, UTFS, etc.
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Post by Si on Oct 7, 2021 11:07:53 GMT
I dont think the board or anyone else has given up on the season. Yes, mistakes have been made re: recruitment and tactics, but they should be given the chance to rectify those mistakes. Never done anything, that you wouldnt have done differently , in hindsight? The interview finished it for me. Happy to be proved wrong and for us to actually start matches positively, but if weâve got a manager who says he wouldnât bother going to watch this team, Iâm not going to rush to travel for 5 1/2 hours to until thereâs some improvement. Change needs to happen fast here, if the next few games are the same dross then I hope the board reconsiders. Cmon Malcolm, cheer up fella. We've all been emotional in the aftermath of Tuesday, and I'm sure Jonno himself knows that interview could have been handled a bit better but it was straight after the game and it was a raw time to speak to the press. Don't turn your back on the team now, the board have spoken and declaring you won't bother going at the time where the club as a collective needs to pull together is counter productive. I think it a lot of ways its over to the players now. Jonno has said his bit, the board have said their bit, so it's time for the players to prove that they really want to play for these managers and string some results together. There's no reason why we can't go to Kettering and get a result, and in fairness we have usually got a reaction when we've had these cup nightmares over the years. I totally accept the managers own the tactics and selection, but it must be frustrating for them to see basics not being done and things like that are on the players. Massive game Saturday, but if we can get a win then it's 6 points from 2 games in the league and they can't do much more than that right now. Time for a line to be drawn and support the club we claim to support, not turn our backs.
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Post by midfieldgeneral on Oct 7, 2021 11:10:30 GMT
I dont think the board or anyone else has given up on the season. Yes, mistakes have been made re: recruitment and tactics, but they should be given the chance to rectify those mistakes. Never done anything, that you wouldnt have done differently , in hindsight? The interview finished it for me. Happy to be proved wrong and for us to actually start matches positively, but if weâve got a manager who says he wouldnât bother going to watch this team, Iâm not going to rush to travel for 5 1/2 hours to until thereâs some improvement. Change needs to happen fast here, if the next few games are the same dross then I hope the board reconsiders. Thats completely understandable. I for one would expect both improvements to league position and performance to occur. Personnally, I would 1ike us to get another forward, on loan, to partner Redshaw upfront and try and move on some of the fringe players.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2021 11:25:57 GMT
Perfectly decent and fair statement. I think most reasonable people would consider that as a marker for all parties as to where we stand.
My big concern now is the reaction of some if we see no improvement in the next few games particularly at our next home game Could be a bit toxic Hope not!
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Post by scotty on Oct 7, 2021 11:29:20 GMT
Disappointed with performance... Improvement plan... Regular reviews...
It's all very HR.
I think the Board have bottled it.
The solution is to offer the job to one of them and sack the other. I've never been completely sold on joint managers anyway. Someone ultimately needs to be accountable: not everything can be a compromise decision.
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Post by sealandrd on Oct 7, 2021 11:30:21 GMT
I'm fairly content with the statement. But I only seeing it as delaying the inevitable. I can't for the life of me see that group putting on a consistent run of results and performances together.
I really hope I'm proved wrong. The interview the other night sounded like someone who'd lost all hope and belief. How do they lift those players to go again when he kinda threw them under the bus?
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Post by happyclapper52 on Oct 7, 2021 11:36:46 GMT
As has been said we are only 7 League games into the season so would stick with the managers for now. With regard to the team I would replace Livesey and Grand with Cowan and Williams and play a back 4. In midfield play 2 out of 3 of Glennon,Weekes and Hardy with the one left out as sub. Wouldn't play Waring unless we have someone around him to actually feed off. Would give Marsh Hughes an extended run though.
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Post by Al on Oct 7, 2021 11:41:31 GMT
Evidence will be if we start to move players out in the next week or two and start to bring bodies in (if we can).
Board have backed them, they have a plan, Bern and Jonno say they want to stay and fight.
Got to start seeing some changes in playing staff now fingers crossed
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Post by sealandender1 on Oct 7, 2021 11:52:50 GMT
Unsure as to where about Stockport weâre in the league in 2017/18 at this stage of the season; but I do remember heated words took place at their club and then amazingly they went on a run which saw them go up as champions. Now, Iâm not saying we will do similar to Stockport - what I am saying is that sometimes, a good old âwarts nâ allâ discussion can work wonders!!! Fingers crossed. WE as supporters have got to stick together and support OUR club, after all WE owe it our forefathers who at times struggled to set OUR club in motion in 1885. WE also owe it to the work and time that took place during our reformation. At times, during our 130 odd years of history we have been to hell and back and WE will pull through this current situation. This is my 67th season of supporting OUR club, commencing in season 1953-54 - I for one, donât intend to jump ship!! Stick with it, as this is just another âbump in the roadâ on our journey..
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Post by Frank Owenâs Paintbrush on Oct 7, 2021 11:55:36 GMT
Unsure as to where about Stockport weâre in the league in 2017/18 at this stage of the season; but I do remember heated words took place at their club and then amazingly they went on a run which saw them go up as champions. Now, Iâm not saying we will do similar to Stockport - what I am saying is that sometimes, a good old âwarts nâ allâ discussion can work wonders!!! Fingers crossed. WE as supporters have got to stick together and support OUR club, after all WE owe it our forefathers who at times struggled to set OUR club in motion in 1885. WE also owe it to the work and time that took place during our reformation. At times, during our 130 odd years of history we have been to hell and back and WE will pull through this current situation. This is my 67th season of supporting OUR club, commencing in season 1953-54 - I for one, donât intend to jump ship!! Stick with it, as this is just another âbump in the roadâ on our journey.. đđđđđđ
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Post by Moltisanti on Oct 7, 2021 11:58:06 GMT
Unsure as to where about Stockport weâre in the league in 2017/18 at this stage of the season; but I do remember heated words took place at their club and then amazingly they went on a run which saw them go up as champions. Now, Iâm not saying we will do similar to Stockport - what I am saying is that sometimes, a good old âwarts nâ allâ discussion can work wonders!!! Fingers crossed. WE as supporters have got to stick together and support OUR club, after all WE owe it our forefathers who at times struggled to set OUR club in motion in 1885. WE also owe it to the work and time that took place during our reformation. At times, during our 130 odd years of history we have been to hell and back and WE will pull through this current situation. This is my 67th season of supporting OUR club, commencing in season 1953-54 - I for one, donât intend to jump ship!! Stick with it, as this is just another âbump in the roadâ on our journey.. Well said. đđ»
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Post by waggoner on Oct 7, 2021 12:10:43 GMT
Good to see weâve given up on the season, like Jonno has. yea âwe have spunked the 100k you kindly donated on shitâ but hey we all make mistakes. He admitted the other night that they f@&ked up on the signings. But hey itâs only money âour moneyâ bottom line is that we cannot get rid because we cannot afford to pay them off. Season over!
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Post by dc2cfc on Oct 7, 2021 12:11:42 GMT
The Players need to step up now and take responsibility as individuals and as a team,
I don't care if we play like Brazil or the Crazy Gang, it's all about winning games of football at this level to get promoted.
It should be a everything or nothing attitude from the Managers, Board, Players and Fans from now on.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2021 12:13:55 GMT
Right decision for me.
Early doors in league table regardless of performances, 5-7 points from next 3 games puts us top half.
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Post by Harry Lime on Oct 7, 2021 12:15:20 GMT
Board have done the right thing.
Although we didn't like Jonno's post match interview, it did show how much he was upset by the result/performance. The following one in Cheshire Live was spot on. Had chance to calm down and clear his head.
McCarthy just lied after games and went into denial. You can't accuse Jonno of that. He says what he thinks. I genuinely hope they turn it around.
After Kettering we don't currently have a game for 2 weeks, and only one home game until 6th November. They gives them some time to work on changes. Maybe go back to basics and a simpler playing style, especially in our own half, until confidence improves.
Stockport and Alty both got promoted from a similar league position. A few tweaks and we'll improve.
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Post by Rio Doherty on Oct 7, 2021 12:22:55 GMT
100% support our boardâs stance and I am relieved they have made a statement before tonightâs meeting to clarify their position, because things wouldâve turned ugly if they hadnât. It wouldâve been stupid to sack Jonno and Bern when we havenât even played ten league games yet, so they should be in charge for at least three more games so we can make a more fairer judgment on what direction weâre heading in. If we can get at least four points or if weâre in the top twelve they should stay in post, but if not then I doubt things will improve drastically, but for now I fully support Bern and Jonno as I believe they are still the right men for the job. They have received pelters over the last few days, whereas our players have barely received any stick so I seriously hope our players have received a kick up the backside and realise they have to pull their socks up now. This current scenario reminds me very much like the beginning of the 2017-18 season where we were all raving about signing Paul Turnbull, Ross Hannah, Andy Halls, and Kingsley James, but they underperformed massively. Whereas at the beginning of this season we were all getting excited about Darren Stephenson, James Hardy, and Dan Cowan yet they too have been disappointing. Also our strikers (apart from Jack Redshaw) have been shocking all season, so they have to step up now and translate their promising pre-season performances into the league, which is what matters the most. Iâm also pleased our board have set our managers a target, so letâs hope itâll force them to give it absolutely everything in order for our fortunes to change. Looking forward to Kettering Town on Saturday now and I shall give our managers and players my full backing. UTS đ”âȘïž!
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Post by Anders on Oct 7, 2021 12:37:41 GMT
Unsure as to where about Stockport weâre in the league in 2017/18 at this stage of the season; but I do remember heated words took place at their club and then amazingly they went on a run which saw them go up as champions. Now, Iâm not saying we will do similar to Stockport - what I am saying is that sometimes, a good old âwarts nâ allâ discussion can work wonders!!! Fingers crossed. WE as supporters have got to stick together and support OUR club, after all WE owe it our forefathers who at times struggled to set OUR club in motion in 1885. WE also owe it to the work and time that took place during our reformation. At times, during our 130 odd years of history we have been to hell and back and WE will pull through this current situation. This is my 67th season of supporting OUR club, commencing in season 1953-54 - I for one, donât intend to jump ship!! Stick with it, as this is just another âbump in the roadâ on our journey.. 11th on 7th October.
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Post by Moltisanti on Oct 7, 2021 12:56:12 GMT
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Post by inthestand on Oct 7, 2021 13:16:19 GMT
OkâŠso itâs sounds we probably canât afford to get rid of them until their contracts run out at the end of the seasonâŠsoâŠthe first thing I want to see is an improved league position within the next 5 games, and some bloody fight on the pitch,..we also need to off load 5 or 6 and replace themâŠand Iâd like to see that done as soon as possible âŠI hope the board have made the right decision here or we could be facing relegation come the end of the year..
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Post by RonD on Oct 7, 2021 13:25:07 GMT
As has been said we are only 7 League games into the season so would stick with the managers for now. With regard to the team I would replace Livesey and Grand with Cowan and Williams and play a back 4. In midfield play 2 out of 3 of Glennon,Weekes and Hardy with the one left out as sub. Wouldn't play Waring unless we have someone around him to actually feed off. Would give Marsh Hughes an extended run though. Waring and Marsh Hughes totally ineffective. Need someone to link up with Redshaw.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2021 13:38:55 GMT
OkâŠso itâs sounds we probably canât afford to get rid of them until their contracts run out at the end of the seasonâŠsoâŠthe first thing I want to see is an improved league position within the next 5 games, and some bloody fight on the pitch,..we also need to off load 5 or 6 and replace themâŠand Iâd like to see that done as soon as possible âŠI hope the board have made the right decision here or we could be facing relegation come the end of the year..It sounds like the board have full and continuing support for co-managers, anything else is your own speculation. Why do that? why spread division under a statement calling for togetherness and stability? I agree we need to show a big improvement but whilst this is the worst form we've ever showed under this pair, we are still nowhere near relegation form, hyperbole isn't helping. It's been 7 matches and we're still closer to the play offs than relegation.
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