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Post by Al on Jan 31, 2017 12:53:15 GMT
Seems the squad that Dean Keates has inherited are ALL on 30 game clauses. If they start 30 games in the season then they automatically trigger a 12 month contract extension. Appears Agents Mills and Horne stuffed them up big time!
The first player to (almost) hit that barrier is John Rooney (currently on 29 starts) and was on the bench for their game at the weekend.
Seems Keates has a lot of work on his hands dealing with (potentially) unhappy players as they try and negotiate themselves out of the deals. |
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Post by Frank Owen’s Paintbrush on Jan 31, 2017 13:11:50 GMT
It's an interesting way of picking a team for the rest of the season, that's for sure. I'd imagine the board may want to influence it in some respects - unfortunately for the Goats league rules dictate a club cannot name more than five subs!
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Post by Al on Jan 31, 2017 13:15:01 GMT
Apparently some players won't trigger the clause, like that White fella, as well as Anthony Barry and a couple of others.
Should make things interesting when it comes to picking a matchday squad though if the player is deemed surplus to requirements....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 13:41:01 GMT
looks like they miss out on a fee with the neil taylor swap deal
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Post by Al on Jan 31, 2017 13:45:03 GMT
Hahaha brilliant!
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Post by massivefloodlights on Jan 31, 2017 14:29:10 GMT
Apparently some players won't trigger the clause, like that White fella, as well as Anthony Barry and a couple of others. Should make things interesting when it comes to picking a matchday squad though if the player is deemed surplus to requirements.... White and Barry have barely played 10 games each so it'll be the end of the season before the clause kicks in on them two. Ample time to see if White can cut it. Barry I would of thought will be free to leave in the summer anyway. |
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Post by 1864 on Jan 31, 2017 14:33:43 GMT
Taylor's move will qualify the Reds for around £385k
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Post by Gresford red on Jan 31, 2017 15:17:18 GMT
I thought I'd pop on here and have a look at your new site. Talking of 30 game clauses in your contract, would you boys take Rooney back if he doesn't hit the 30 game tally at Wrexham ?
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Post by Al on Jan 31, 2017 15:22:25 GMT
No, for the money he would no doubt want there are far better players out there for less money.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 15:22:27 GMT
I thought I'd pop on here and have a look at your new site. Talking of 30 game clauses in your contract, would you boys take Rooney back if he doesn't hit the 30 game tally at Wrexham ? Haha never. He's not missed. Flashes of brilliance were few and far between and he was so predictable, always looking to play with his right foot. Give me Durrell any day plus no Rooney has cut Tom Shaws workload and given him more freedom to attack |
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Post by Blue4life on Jan 31, 2017 17:14:50 GMT
I thought I'd pop on here and have a look at your new site. Talking of 30 game clauses in your contract, would you boys take Rooney back if he doesn't hit the 30 game tally at Wrexham ? Not a chance the judus c..t |
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Post by Wortleyblue on Jan 31, 2017 17:49:42 GMT
No, for the money he would no doubt want there are far better players out there for less money. Not for me either we are definatley performing better without him |
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Post by Andy Hubbard on Jan 31, 2017 17:51:41 GMT
No, for the money he would no doubt want there are far better players out there for less money. Not for me either we are definatley performing better without him No way would I have him back a waste of a wage let him get to the 30 game mark and stay with them up the road! |
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Post by HairyTriangle on Jan 31, 2017 17:57:04 GMT
Players like John Rooney are often not popular with fans. I've found that players who make a heroic sliding tackle are loved (when often they shouldn't have been out of position in the first place) while players who give the ball away while actually trying to make something happen (such as Rooney) are often underrated.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 18:12:39 GMT
wont suprise me if he stabs them in the back to
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Post by waggoner2 on Jan 31, 2017 18:22:55 GMT
Taylor's move will qualify the Reds for around £385k IF (and it is a big IF) he is valued at £4. There is no way Villa will value him at that. £2.5m is more likely. Which means £250k to Wrexham Minus £150k they have already had =£100k to Wrexham....less agents fees, tax, vat ect Hardly the windfall they think they are going to get. Some on RP are saying ''i can't see Swansea stitching us up, what have they got to gain by doing this to a fellow Welsh club''?. Like Swansea give a toss about Wrexham!! |
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Post by VC on Jan 31, 2017 21:08:12 GMT
The 150k is removed from profit. Ayew £9m minus £5m cash makes Taylor fee £4m. Take out £150k leaves £3.85m. Wrexham make £385k obv minus the necessary taxes. Roughly the sum Sutton have made so far in FA Cup!
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Post by Jimmy k on Feb 1, 2017 12:23:47 GMT
The 150k is removed from profit. Ayew £9m minus £5m cash makes Taylor fee £4m. Take out £150k leaves £3.85m. Wrexham make £385k obv minus the necessary taxes. Roughly the sum Sutton have made so far in FA Cup! [br 4m take out agents fees. Take out the 10% the player gets.no way will they get 385k. The actual figure is more likely to be around 2m after everyone gets their cut. So 200k minus 150k =50k. Then wrexham will have costs out of that. Would be shocked if they clear more than 40k tbh |
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Post by Hannibal on Feb 1, 2017 13:05:56 GMT
Wow there's some great mathematicians on here ...not.
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Post by Jimmy k on Feb 1, 2017 13:50:31 GMT
Wow there's some great mathematicians on here ...not. [br Why cos we are realistic?. Even if the 4m is correct it is a gross figure. It is the NET figure that matters. Do you really think that Swansea and villa are going to absorb all of the agents fees?. The 4m is the Base figure, it's the amount left after costs that will determine how much if anything wrexham get. |
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Post by paulie on Feb 1, 2017 15:34:19 GMT
Taylor's move will qualify the Reds for around £385k They always get that bit of luck that never seems to happen for us. |
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Post by englishred on Feb 1, 2017 16:11:03 GMT
Ha ha yeah it's brilliant when a fan owned club gets screwed over! Ha ha! Personally I hate when that sort of thing happens to a club who could do with the money. Like you lot and Heneghan. I wouldn't put it past Swansea. They did it with Utrecht after all. Some people seem to be counting their chickens on this one. I'll believe it when we get the cash. |
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Post by Sqzl Guest on Feb 1, 2017 16:36:11 GMT
Not for me either we are definatley performing better without him No way would I have him back a waste of a wage let him get to the 30 game mark and stay with them up the road! I'd not have him back on the basis of how he left. As a footballer we talk about their being far better available, yet we haven't found anything better in Durrell for me. Rooney gets more goals than him ad is the same sort of player, Durrell is just better value. |
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Post by massivefloodlights on Feb 1, 2017 16:38:12 GMT
Taylor's move will qualify the Reds for around £385k They always get that bit of luck that never seems to happen for us. There's no luck involved. It's just our youth development has produced a better class of player than yours. |
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Post by Jimmy k on Feb 1, 2017 17:25:06 GMT
Ha ha yeah it's brilliant when a fan owned club gets screwed over! Ha ha! Personally I hate when that sort of thing happens to a club who could do with the money. Like you lot and Heneghan. I wouldn't put it past Swansea. They did it with Utrecht after all. Some people seem to be counting their chickens on this one. I'll believe it when we get the cash. What i don't get is this...You lot get 10% of 4m. Loads of you keep stating that after the 150k is taken out of the 105 of 4m it leaves you with 385k. I think you are confused. 10% of 4m is 400k minus 150= 250k. Not 385k. I honestly can't see you getting anything like 250K. The Louis Moult thing is also going to shaft you. It's MOTHERWELL (the same Motherwell who screwed us over with Hennighan) |
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Post by englishred on Feb 1, 2017 17:39:15 GMT
Ha ha yeah it's brilliant when a fan owned club gets screwed over! Ha ha! Personally I hate when that sort of thing happens to a club who could do with the money. Like you lot and Heneghan. I wouldn't put it past Swansea. They did it with Utrecht after all. Some people seem to be counting their chickens on this one. I'll believe it when we get the cash. What i don't get is this...You lot get 10% of 4m. Loads of you keep stating that after the 150k is taken out of the 105 of 4m it leaves you with 385k. I think you are confused. 10% of 4m is 400k minus 150= 250k. Not 385k. I honestly can't see you getting anything like 250K. The Louis Moult thing is also going to shaft you. It's MOTHERWELL (the same Motherwell who screwed us over with Hennighan) Personally I don't think we are getting anything. There will be a loophole. Unfortunately I think you are right about Moult as well! |
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Post by VC on Feb 1, 2017 17:58:47 GMT
Ha ha yeah it's brilliant when a fan owned club gets screwed over! Ha ha! Personally I hate when that sort of thing happens to a club who could do with the money. Like you lot and Heneghan. I wouldn't put it past Swansea. They did it with Utrecht after all. Some people seem to be counting their chickens on this one. I'll believe it when we get the cash. What i don't get is this...You lot get 10% of 4m. Loads of you keep stating that after the 150k is taken out of the 105 of 4m it leaves you with 385k. I think you are confused. 10% of 4m is 400k minus 150= 250k. Not 385k. I honestly can't see you getting anything like 250K. The Louis Moult thing is also going to shaft you. It's MOTHERWELL (the same Motherwell who screwed us over with Hennighan) Wrexham get 10% of any profit. Swansea spent £150k on him. He has been sold for £4m. The profit is therefore £3.85m. 10% of that is £385k. Wrexham do not have to hand any of that back, the 150k has already been accounted. It'd be pretty stupid to do a deal the way round you suggest, maybe the sort of thing Gary Mills would do! That is the agreement. Question is now how the spend the money, players, ground or youth. |
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Post by Uninvited on Feb 1, 2017 21:02:03 GMT
They always get that bit of luck that never seems to happen for us. There's no luck involved. It's just our youth development has produced a better class of player than yours. And they are given proper contracts, where the club Benefits from such sales in the future |
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Post by Big Dave on Feb 1, 2017 22:34:56 GMT
Ha ha yeah it's brilliant when a fan owned club gets screwed over! Ha ha! Personally I hate when that sort of thing happens to a club who could do with the money. Like you lot and Heneghan. I wouldn't put it past Swansea. They did it with Utrecht after all. Some people seem to be counting their chickens on this one. I'll believe it when we get the cash. What i don't get is this...You lot get 10% of 4m. Loads of you keep stating that after the 150k is taken out of the 105 of 4m it leaves you with 385k. I think you are confused. 10% of 4m is 400k minus 150= 250k. Not 385k. I honestly can't see you getting anything like 250K. The Louis Moult thing is also going to shaft you. It's MOTHERWELL (the same Motherwell who screwed us over with Hennighan) The £150k doesn't come off the 10% sell on fee. It comes off whatever Villa paid for him and then Wrexham get 10% of that. So if it was £3m, Wrexham get 10% of £2.85m. |
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