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Post by noddy on Mar 27, 2024 20:58:53 GMT
Hopefully a change of playing style and a fully fit Caton and Peers next season will make all the difference. No doubt injuries have blighted their season and they have both struggled since coming back in the new year.
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Post by hughdemann on Mar 27, 2024 21:16:43 GMT
I dont get to as many games as most people on here, but from the games i have seen we have the basis of a very good side, who don't get hammered by anyone, and we have been good enough to beat and / or not lose to most of the teams above us. With our top scorers being our midfielders, our attack has to be a priority going forward, especially if we can improve that whilst keeping our strong defencive ability.
Hopefully we can go on a good run and stay in the play off hunt, but either way we need to find a golden nuggett again, one of those players who doesn't seem to do much until they put the ball in the back of the nut (Willoughby & Asante). I thought Peers could be the answer when he arrived but it hasn't happened yet, Caton is a fair player, but not a centre forward, keeping people injury free has been a problem with the forward line all season.
I think Callum deserves another season, with the majority of the same squad, but i would like to see more emphasis on attack, especially in home games. It seems entertainment value has deteriorated again this season. I seem to recall posting after the Chorley home game at the start of the season, that it was quite an enjoyable 0-0, considering we had a load of injuries, with Kole Hall ploughing a lone furrow that night, making chances but not converting them, which i think would always be the case with him, though i thought he would have combined well with somebody else in support.
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Post by spencerwhelanleftpeg on Mar 27, 2024 21:18:13 GMT
Peers is shocking these days his first touch is consistently awful and generally takes away promising situations frequently . He’s on a two year deal and that may well be a problem moving forward. Hope he comes good but doesn’t look great at the moment , Caton tries hard not happening at the moment for him Let’s hope for the points we require to get into end of season mix first
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Post by whitey on Mar 28, 2024 0:04:10 GMT
It's not the players, it's the style of football we play. We bypass our best players in midfield and constantly just hoof it up to our not large forwards. We need wingers and a different style of football for the all of them to flourish.
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Post by tonya on Mar 28, 2024 0:06:08 GMT
I haven't trawled through the comments but would just say say that Cal has been a breath of fresh air invigorating the club with his personal demeanour and openness. He works his socks off and performs miracles on a limited budget. All the fans need to do is be just that ..fans...and support the manager and team in the final stage if the season.
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Post by superhans on Mar 28, 2024 5:29:14 GMT
Hopefully a change of playing style and a fully fit Caton and Peers next season will make all the difference. No doubt injuries have blighted their season and they have both struggled since coming back in the new year. Both have looked a shell of their former selves since they both got bad injuries. Maybe rushed back too soon as we didn't have any forwards. Hope with a full pre season under their belt, seem to remember Caton having problems with injuries from the off this season. In terms of Cal, if may well come down to what he wants to do as we won't sack him. For me,Ike most have said we need to see something else in these last few games to give us some confidence going into next season. The form we've showed across 2024 can't continue into next season
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Post by blue4life on Mar 28, 2024 8:54:52 GMT
100% Cal gets next season if we dont make the play offs.
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Post by lang on Mar 28, 2024 9:19:52 GMT
We have to stick with Cal. He has turned us around from the Bern and Jonno days. Yes has made mistakes, but he is an intelligent bloke and a blue through and through so we back him. We all make mistakes but the key is to learn and dont give up at the first hurdle. He is one of our own so what does that make us if we kick him out after one poor run of results. Back him How has he turned us around from Bern and jonno days ? They came in with no squad, no money and still finished in respectable position when a majority of support thought we would be relegated again ! Season after got in playoffs, Ok season after went down hill, but turned it round naa not having that.
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Post by Moltisanti on Mar 28, 2024 9:36:08 GMT
We have to stick with Cal. He has turned us around from the Bern and Jonno days. Yes has made mistakes, but he is an intelligent bloke and a blue through and through so we back him. We all make mistakes but the key is to learn and dont give up at the first hurdle. He is one of our own so what does that make us if we kick him out after one poor run of results. Back him How has he turned us around from Bern and jonno days ? They came in with no squad, no money and still finished in respectable position when a majority of support thought we would be relegated again ! Season after got in playoffs, Ok season after went down hill, but turned it round naa not having that. The season before he came in we finished 16th the season he came we finished 3rd Surely a human being can’t be that thick surely?
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Post by Imperial on Mar 28, 2024 21:08:56 GMT
We have to stick with Cal. He has turned us around from the Bern and Jonno days. Yes has made mistakes, but he is an intelligent bloke and a blue through and through so we back him. We all make mistakes but the key is to learn and dont give up at the first hurdle. He is one of our own so what does that make us if we kick him out after one poor run of results. Back him How has he turned us around from Bern and jonno days ? They came in with no squad, no money and still finished in respectable position when a majority of support thought we would be relegated again ! Season after got in playoffs, Ok season after went down hill, but turned it round naa not having that. How many times have we conceded more than 2 goals in a game under Cal?
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Post by beavis on Mar 28, 2024 22:15:06 GMT
We have to stick with Cal. He has turned us around from the Bern and Jonno days. Yes has made mistakes, but he is an intelligent bloke and a blue through and through so we back him. We all make mistakes but the key is to learn and dont give up at the first hurdle. He is one of our own so what does that make us if we kick him out after one poor run of results. Back him How has he turned us around from Bern and jonno days ? They came in with no squad, no money and still finished in respectable position when a majority of support thought we would be relegated again ! Season after got in playoffs, Ok season after went down hill, but turned it round naa not having that. Because he had us third last season after a mess of a season the year before under Morley and Johnson and Watson. However, there needs to be some perspective added I think. M and J weren't universally liked by quite a few but there last fifteen games (the first fifteen games of the 21/22 season) weren't to dissimilar to Cals last fifteen games. The difference between the two management teams though is that M+J tried to win games whereas Cal tries not to lose games. One set are attack minded and one is defensive minded, look at both records this season as an example. I think Lobster posted something along the lines of, if we had M+J attacking home style and Cals away style we'd be a pretty formidable force. BUT, anyone who expected a Cal Mac team to be a free flowing, attacking team never watched his youth teams in action. They were always well drilled and organised and usually had the odd brilliant set play routine but they sat behind the ball set up not to lose, hence his brilliant record against bigger clubs with much bigger budgets.
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Post by boughtonblue on Mar 28, 2024 22:44:37 GMT
We have to stick with Cal. He has turned us around from the Bern and Jonno days. Yes has made mistakes, but he is an intelligent bloke and a blue through and through so we back him. We all make mistakes but the key is to learn and dont give up at the first hurdle. He is one of our own so what does that make us if we kick him out after one poor run of results. Back him How has he turned us around from Bern and jonno days ? They came in with no squad, no money and still finished in respectable position when a majority of support thought we would be relegated again ! Season after got in playoffs, Ok season after went down hill, but turned it round naa not having that. The duo talked themselves into the sack, all about the budget apparently after saying we had the best squad in their time here. We lost at home 4-0 to Marske. The squad was hugely unbalanced.The team completely lacked any sort of belief. Watson turned it around but Cal only had a couple of players in contract when he took over. Were you watching that season?
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Post by arthuro on Mar 29, 2024 10:26:25 GMT
I'd stick with him for now but his tactics need to change drastically. And game management. Teams like Hereford and South Shields changed tactics midway through the game and he’s been far too slow to react.
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Post by waggoner on Mar 29, 2024 10:39:40 GMT
If we fail to get a play off place? Questions have to be asked of Cal Mac. Nice fella, hes a Chester fan loves the city and our football club our community etc but is it really such a big job for him to manage within our expectations as a club moving forward. We all want the best for this football in terms of moving forward to the national league and the football league in the future it will take time and money but this league should be a walk in the park with the squad we have had under Cal so far. I think in my honest opinion we need a more experienced manager in the esk of a John Askey, Keith Hill, type of manager yes it would take money for that to happen. I'm all for a boost the budget, crowd funder to make something like this possible for the future if we still continue to fail our expectations under Cal. Yes I know we have no real goal scoring striker this season like we have had in Willoughby last season but we have failed this season in trying to find that this season in the players we have tried to use in that role. We might have to see whats what at the end of this season if its a failed attempt but questions have to be asked as we have been dire in front of gone and a loss of a winning mentality, tactics, systems, set pieces, styles of play etc have to be questioned this season. We all really want it to work out here for Cal but sadly it doesnt seem to be working out like what we would have all hoped for. I hope I'm proved wrong like many who are unhappy at the moment guess we have to keep up the faith and continue this season hopefully starting with a win at Buxton and a nice winning run to end the season in the play offs. If we fail to get a playoff place it’s simple. We go again next season
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Post by waggoner on Mar 29, 2024 10:47:42 GMT
For me if we don’t make the playoffs or we make them and lose we should go again next season with Cal in charge, but lessons have got to be learnt and would hope to see a different more positive system when it comes to home games and we way we set up. Agreed. IF we fail to make the play-offs, then IMHO Cal would have had one season where he's over achieved, one where he's under achieved. For a young manager, I think there's a lot more to be learned from the latter. I'd 100% rather back Cal to learn from a disappointing season, than somehow try to find the money to pay off his 2-year contract and search for somebody else to do the job on any money left over. FWIW - Even if Cal's contract was up this summer and the pay-off wasn't an issue, I'd still back him to take us into next season. My opinion for what it’s worth is. Every time we finish in the top half of this division we HAVE over achieved or budget is no better than a mid table budget. People need to get a grip on their expectations because we are what we are; a small fan owned club who run on a very strict budget. No sugar daddy, no rich benefactor. We would struggle massively in the league above you need millions to progress in NL and we haven’t.
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Post by yoshimitsu on Mar 29, 2024 11:28:02 GMT
Agreed. IF we fail to make the play-offs, then IMHO Cal would have had one season where he's over achieved, one where he's under achieved. For a young manager, I think there's a lot more to be learned from the latter. I'd 100% rather back Cal to learn from a disappointing season, than somehow try to find the money to pay off his 2-year contract and search for somebody else to do the job on any money left over. FWIW - Even if Cal's contract was up this summer and the pay-off wasn't an issue, I'd still back him to take us into next season. My opinion for what it’s worth is. Every time we finish in the top half of this division we HAVE over achieved or budget is no better than a mid table budget. People need to get a grip on their expectations because we are what we are; a small fan owned club who run on a very strict budget. No sugar daddy, no rich benefactor. We would struggle massively in the league above you need millions to progress in NL and we haven’t. Be fun though regardless wouldn’t it?
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Post by sealandender1 on Mar 29, 2024 11:38:46 GMT
My opinion for what it’s worth is. Every time we finish in the top half of this division we HAVE over achieved or budget is no better than a mid table budget. People need to get a grip on their expectations because we are what we are; a small fan owned club who run on a very strict budget. No sugar daddy, no rich benefactor. We would struggle massively in the league above you need millions to progress in NL and we haven’t. Be fun though regardless wouldn’t it? Read somewhere that it’s cost Chesterfield £5.5 million over the last two seasons!!!
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Post by muchwenlock on Mar 29, 2024 12:17:59 GMT
Agreed. IF we fail to make the play-offs, then IMHO Cal would have had one season where he's over achieved, one where he's under achieved. For a young manager, I think there's a lot more to be learned from the latter. I'd 100% rather back Cal to learn from a disappointing season, than somehow try to find the money to pay off his 2-year contract and search for somebody else to do the job on any money left over. FWIW - Even if Cal's contract was up this summer and the pay-off wasn't an issue, I'd still back him to take us into next season. My opinion for what it’s worth is. Every time we finish in the top half of this division we HAVE over achieved or budget is no better than a mid table budget. People need to get a grip on their expectations because we are what we are; a small fan owned club who run on a very strict budget. No sugar daddy, no rich benefactor. We would struggle massively in the league above you need millions to progress in NL and we haven’t. How long do you think people will turn up if we are just treading water in this division? It's not all about budgets the top two in this division prove this . Do you think that Tamworth have a bigger budget than us ! Scunthorpe have undoubtedly the biggest budget in the league and by rights should have pissed the league by Christmas. Recruitment, coaching, organisation, tactics all come into it .
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Post by inthestand on Mar 29, 2024 12:29:45 GMT
This league is so bloody hard to get out of…you really do need that bit of extra luck…but also that luck must be backed up with some financial injection to help get over the line..and that is where we a are lacking unfortunately…so hard having in players that nobody else wants and expecting miracles…but it’s not over yet…
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Post by Curva Nord on Mar 29, 2024 12:33:43 GMT
This league is so bloody hard to get out of…you really do need that bit of extra luck…but also that luck must be backed up with some financial injection to help get over the line..and that is where we a are lacking unfortunately…so hard having in players that nobody else wants and expecting miracles…but it’s not over yet… Every league is hard to get out of.
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Post by righteousblue on Mar 29, 2024 12:52:43 GMT
If we fail to get a play off place? Questions have to be asked of Cal Mac. Nice fella, hes a Chester fan loves the city and our football club our community etc but is it really such a big job for him to manage within our expectations as a club moving forward. We all want the best for this football in terms of moving forward to the national league and the football league in the future it will take time and money but this league should be a walk in the park with the squad we have had under Cal so far. I think in my honest opinion we need a more experienced manager in the esk of a John Askey, Keith Hill, type of manager yes it would take money for that to happen. I'm all for a boost the budget, crowd funder to make something like this possible for the future if we still continue to fail our expectations under Cal. Yes I know we have no real goal scoring striker this season like we have had in Willoughby last season but we have failed this season in trying to find that this season in the players we have tried to use in that role. We might have to see whats what at the end of this season if its a failed attempt but questions have to be asked as we have been dire in front of gone and a loss of a winning mentality, tactics, systems, set pieces, styles of play etc have to be questioned this season. We all really want it to work out here for Cal but sadly it doesnt seem to be working out like what we would have all hoped for. I hope I'm proved wrong like many who are unhappy at the moment guess we have to keep up the faith and continue this season hopefully starting with a win at Buxton and a nice winning run to end the season in the play offs.Same old.
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Post by waggoner on Mar 29, 2024 14:52:24 GMT
My opinion for what it’s worth is. Every time we finish in the top half of this division we HAVE over achieved or budget is no better than a mid table budget. People need to get a grip on their expectations because we are what we are; a small fan owned club who run on a very strict budget. No sugar daddy, no rich benefactor. We would struggle massively in the league above you need millions to progress in NL and we haven’t. How long do you think people will turn up if we are just treading water in this division? It's not all about budgets the top two in this division prove this . Do you think that Tamworth have a bigger budget than us ! Scunthorpe have undoubtedly the biggest budget in the league and by rights should have pissed the league by Christmas. Recruitment, coaching, organisation, tactics all come into it . Yes I do think Tamworth have a higher budget than us in fact I think at least 8 clubs in this league are on a bigger budget than us
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Post by peterkaysock on Mar 29, 2024 22:32:18 GMT
For me Callum is the right fit for the club. He is still learning about this league and the players in it. But he needs to take some of the negatives on the chin. This is where you learn. I think a few comments get under his skin, which he needs to shake off. There are a lot of critics watching the game every week. You can tell in his post match interview's. Think he has had a few lessons this season.
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Post by agl on Mar 29, 2024 22:54:20 GMT
How long do you think people will turn up if we are just treading water in this division? It's not all about budgets the top two in this division prove this . Do you think that Tamworth have a bigger budget than us ! Scunthorpe have undoubtedly the biggest budget in the league and by rights should have pissed the league by Christmas. Recruitment, coaching, organisation, tactics all come into it . Yes I do think Tamworth have a higher budget than us in fact I think at least 8 clubs in this league are on a bigger budget than us Are you going to back that up with any facts, or do you just "think" that? Which 8 clubs do you "think" have a higher budget? Care to share Tamworth's budget with us?
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Post by waggoner on Mar 29, 2024 23:13:12 GMT
Yes I do think Tamworth have a higher budget than us in fact I think at least 8 clubs in this league are on a bigger budget than us Are you going to back that up with any facts, or do you just "think" that? Which 8 clubs do you "think" have a higher budget? Care to share Tamworth's budget with us? My question to you. Do you think we have one of the biggest budgets in this division? If you do think this you are deluded. What is our budget? I bet you don’t know. Now I can’t be arsed researching who pays who what just to joust with you. If you want to find out then knock yourself out!
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Post by agl on Mar 30, 2024 8:45:51 GMT
Are you going to back that up with any facts, or do you just "think" that? Which 8 clubs do you "think" have a higher budget? Care to share Tamworth's budget with us? My question to you. Do you think we have one of the biggest budgets in this division? If you do think this you are deluded. What is our budget? I bet you don’t know. Now I can’t be arsed researching who pays who what just to joust with you. If you want to find out then knock yourself out! I have no idea where our budget stands in relation to other teams and I suspect you don't either. The difference is I don't make stupid claims I can't substantiate. You've said we don't have a top 9 budget. Now you can't be arsed researching it. For what it's worth I believe our budget is about 450k. Just to be clear, I don't think that is the highest in the league. I am genuinely interested to know whether our budget is top 7, top 5 or whatever as it helps make judgements on how we are doing. Again, what makes you "think" at least 8 or 9 teams have higher budgets?
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Post by waggoner on Mar 30, 2024 9:14:03 GMT
My question to you. Do you think we have one of the biggest budgets in this division? If you do think this you are deluded. What is our budget? I bet you don’t know. Now I can’t be arsed researching who pays who what just to joust with you. If you want to find out then knock yourself out! I have no idea where our budget stands in relation to other teams and I suspect you don't either. The difference is I don't make stupid claims I can't substantiate. You've said we don't have a top 9 budget. Now you can't be arsed researching it. For what it's worth I believe our budget is about 450k. Just to be clear, I don't think that is the highest in the league. I am genuinely interested to know whether our budget is top 7, top 5 or whatever as it helps make judgements on how we are doing. Again, what makes you "think" at least 8 or 9 teams have higher budgets? Once again I am not getting into this with you got better things to do with my time
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Post by muchwenlock on Mar 30, 2024 9:20:03 GMT
My question to you. Do you think we have one of the biggest budgets in this division? If you do think this you are deluded. What is our budget? I bet you don’t know. Now I can’t be arsed researching who pays who what just to joust with you. If you want to find out then knock yourself out! I have no idea where our budget stands in relation to other teams and I suspect you don't either. The difference is I don't make stupid claims I can't substantiate. You've said we don't have a top 9 budget. Now you can't be arsed researching it. For what it's worth I believe our budget is about 450k. Just to be clear, I don't think that is the highest in the league. I am genuinely interested to know whether our budget is top 7, top 5 or whatever as it helps make judgements on how we are doing. Again, what makes you "think" at least 8 or 9 teams have higher budgets? He doesn't have a clue who's got what and proved that when he couldn't give you an answer. He kind of missed the point of my original post anyway it's not about how big your budget is it's how it's used .
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Post by agl on Mar 30, 2024 9:24:53 GMT
I have no idea where our budget stands in relation to other teams and I suspect you don't either. The difference is I don't make stupid claims I can't substantiate. You've said we don't have a top 9 budget. Now you can't be arsed researching it. For what it's worth I believe our budget is about 450k. Just to be clear, I don't think that is the highest in the league. I am genuinely interested to know whether our budget is top 7, top 5 or whatever as it helps make judgements on how we are doing. Again, what makes you "think" at least 8 or 9 teams have higher budgets? Once again I am not getting into this with you got better things to do with my time You've been found out, you mean. Spouting crap like that really isn't helpful. Let's make it easy for you. I will start you off with Scunthorpe, then you name another seven or eight teams with a higher budget. It will only take a few minutes of your valuable time.
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Post by Moltisanti on Mar 30, 2024 9:39:35 GMT
Reckon
Scunthorpe Kings Lynn Buxton Spennymoor Brackley
Have got bigger budgets than us.
Hereford, Boston, Darlington and South Shields probably similar to us I’m guessing.
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